Tuesday, July 8, 2008

Unity?

So i'd like to take some time to rant.

but i'd like to give some context to the rant, so here we go....

the church i've grown up in, [and am currently employed by] is part of the PC-USA. That is, the presbyterian church of the united states of america.

two years ago, the PC-USA's governing body, the general assembly started a process in which it was investigating the inclusion of clauses into the book of order allowing churches to allow people who are practicing homosexuals to be ordained as elders or deacons.

now this caused a big hullabaloo [isn't that a fun word?] in my church. and this was timed nicely with a close friend of mine who had also grown up in my church to confide in me that he was gay. so i sat through the process of our church discussing what these resolutions meant for the church, and had to see my friend sit through the same discussions where people were openly hostile toward homosexuals, to a pretty harsh degree.

now everything pretty much cooled off since then, but at the end of june, the PC-USA general assembly again met and proposed another resolution that would take out the terminology saying that an ordained minister needed to be celibate or in a monogamous male-female relationship, and replace it with language saying that they were simply living out and following Christ's direction in their life. So again, this is probably going to cause a big hullabaloo. A lot of people are saying that this could cause a split in the presbyterian church similar to the one that the episcopal church is currently undergoing.

and so with that large amount of background information, i begin my rant....

WHY IS THIS SUCH A DIVISIVE ISSUE?????
There are so many issues in the scripture that people take different opinions on: baptism, communion, speaking in tongues, divorce, abortion, women in ministry, homosexuality, etc. And i understand that people are going to have differing or changing opinions on these things. I mean, I don't have solid understanding or belief in most of these issues, and probably won't for some time, if ever. But should our differences in opinion over these issues jeopardize the ministry we can do as a united Body of Christ? [i'll use allen here as an example, because i know he reads this] If allen and I have different opinions on the roles of women in the church [which i don't know if we do or not] why does it seem to be the prevalent view in today's culture that I can't still minister with allen or work with allen because we disagree on that issue.
It seems to me that we would be so much more successful as a church if we had a wide breadth of people and opinions in that church that would speak to different people groups. Or is it better to have a church that caters solely to a specific group? The First Presbyterian Church of People who Believe in Baptism by Immersion and Speaking in Tounges But Not in Divorce or Ordination of Homosexuals [FPCPBBISTBNDOH for short] can be right down the road from the First Presbyterian Church of People who Believe in Baptism by Immersion, Speaking in Tounges and Ordination of Homosexuals But Not in Divorce.

i mean i know that's a bit silly, but doesn't that seem like the direction we're headed? Shouldn't we as Christians, more than anyone, be able to live with differences that we have with each other because we know we are unified in Christ?

"As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace."
-ephesians 4:1-3-

If we really follow that, to bear with one another in love, i think it would be a whole heck of a lot easier to keep that unity. And i think we have these opinions because we make it about issues rather than relationships. For me, i never gave a hoot about homosexuals in the church because i didn't know anyone that was gay, and so when my close friend confided in me, suddenly it became personal. personal relationships make an issue so much more relevant. i didn't care about inner city ministry till i met people that lived in the inner city, till i met people that were poor or homeless. i may be oversimplifying it a bit, but Christ's ministry was about relationships, not doctrinal theology.

and with that Allen-esque blog, i think i'm done for the night.

"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
-matthew 22:36-40-

5 comments:

Emerly Sue said...

I seriously turned off my lap top and was lying in bed, trying to sleep and I couldn't stop thinking...Geez, Jeremy.

So here we go.

I think the problem arises because people view homosexuality as a sin, and thereby see allowing for homosexuals to be ordained as an endorsement of sin. I personally think that homosexuality should be treated like any other sexual sin and I think that people forget that. I think that by removing the clause that calls for celibacy or monogomacy (which apparently isn’t a word, although I don’t know why), again people see this as endorsement of sin. It is very hard to be unified with someone you believe is endorsing sin or living in it. (Of course, everyone deals with sin, but that doesn’t make sin acceptable or condonable or an opportunity for church ordination.) That is why this is such a divisive issue. It’s a matter of morals. I personally believe that the Bible has a response to the PC-USA’s ideas; that’s a different blog post.

But you’re correct in saying that these issues shouldn’t divide us as the body of Christ, because salvation is based on belief in Jesus not whether or not our church ordains homosexuals, or polygamists. The problem is that the church is a vessel tainted by sin, and we cannot look past differences. Honestly, I don’t really even think that we’re willing to hear each other out on these differences. I don’t think it’s bad to hold an opinion, if that opinion can be backed by the Word of God, but I think that discussion is a really beautiful thing. I think that people do not easily separate belief from emotion and so discussion is hard. People are very set in their ideas and aren’t willing to explore. It’s hard to be unified when you hold different ideas about things and when you lack the maturity to work through that.

I hope that this was semi-ambiguous. If not completely. But I can't imagine that it was.

Now I can go to sleep.

Allen F. said...

Well said both of you. I agree with both, but right now I am so focused on a few rants I am working through it would not be prudent to discuss this here.

That being said, thank you for investigating this, we need more people to say and ask these questions.

And I am not sure if I should be honored or saddened to be mentioned so many times in this post. :)

Marshall Benbow said...

I hear your heart in this, J, but Emily is right - this is not the same as the role of women in the church or the exercise of spiritual gifts. This has to do with whether homosexuality is a sin. Sin is sin, yes, and I would hope to not ordain a pastor who was actively and intentionally engaging in any sort of sin that was out in the open. That's why this particular issues is so devisive, and also because it even delves deeper into how people read the Bible, which parts they accept as still true today and which parts are antiquated, what role does Scripture's authority have, etc.

Erik Ostergaard said...

Dude,

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with ya

This is so frustrating. Hopefully I'll have more later. I find myself on both sides of the tracks on this one but really angry with both the left and right of the PCUSA. Almost to the point where I'm ready to jump ship on denominations because I see them as getting in the way of the mission of the Church as a whole.

Erik Ostergaard said...

huzzah for unity, hahaha

.........maybe jumping ship isnt really an option at all........